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k2m*hanna said: I'm a new kawa user I drove before this awesome bike ,, an R1 (1999) and a GSX-R600 (2004). I currently ride a ZX-10R 2006 that I bout from a friend I know he treated it like his son,, when I took it the forks were leaking oil which is normal for a two years old bike. I took the bike to the local dealer (I'm from Bahrain a small island in the Persian Gulf) which actually a bad one to change the seals. At that time I had oil seals only so I asked them if they had the dust seal and guess what even this simple part they lack to keep it in stock, so the mechanic says he can reuse the same dust seal and it would be ok. He Did and with the first compression the oil came out. I went on line and ordered the seals and replaced both the oil seal and dust seal,, for my surprise again it was leaking ,, slightly but still leaking I go back to the mechanic at the dealer and he tells me this could be a problem with the FORK INNER PIPE. Now what are the chances of damaging the inner pipe especially that the back had no serious accident except for a minor slid on the side, besides both pips well be damaged I can't get over this ?? Thanks all for your feed back in advance.
F*F said: The fork inner tube can be undersize from the factory.
k2m*hanna said: but it was fine when it was with the previous owner,, thanks
F*F said: You said you bought it with the leaky forks. How many miles does it have on it ? Measure the fork leg diameters on both lower tubes and see if one is smaller than the other , it probably is. The other thing it can be is the inner fork bearing is worn out and the lower leg has too much movement laterally , you can check this side to side movement by removing the front wheel, there should be no lateral movement at all.
k2m*hanna said: thanks again FAF i bought it with the leaky forks,, but i knew the owner that wasn't the case all through the past 2 years. i think i'll follow your advice and measure the fork leg diameters on both lower tubes.
BBC said: Not to be a smart a$$. Are you sure the shop didn't put them in upside down?
k2m*hanna said: BBC i had the same idea and I've ordered replacement seals and will take it to another shop ,, just in case ,,, during which i'll measure the inner pipe for any problems !!
BBC said: I mention it because I did it last year on my dirt bike. It's easy to do and they only work one way. Just a thought if that's actually the case maybe you can get some money back from the 1st shop. The price I paid was having my buddies make jokes and laugh at me for the rest of the night for making a stupid and careless mistake. If the shop was rough with the seal on installation they could have torn it on the lip of the recess that the bushing fit in. The only other thing that would cause leakage is fork stanchion damage. If you don't see any significant scratches on the tube or feel a kink when you run your fingers on the tube it's not likely. If the seal isn't damaged you should be able to get it taken off carefully flipped over and installed. Personally I wouldn't buy another seal but I'm cheap and when I do it my labour cost is $0 Before you do anything you can pull down the dust seal, take off the circlip and shine a flashlight up the stanchion. If you can see the tensioning spring on the seal it has likely been installed right.
M*toTech10R said: On all fork seals period they are to be installed with the part # or measurement facing up where you can read it if you pop up the dust seal... if the reverse is discovered that is your problem other than that the dust seal are sorta irrelavant to the oil leaking especially since you said it happened the first time the forks where compressed ... :2cents:
j*mbob8915 said: I really don't want to add to your frustration but forks leaking on a two year old bike is NOT common, especially one that has been babied. Somthing is really wrong. Is it both forks or just one?
k2m*hanna said: Is it both forks or just one? yep on both sides i'm really leaning to the fact that the seals were fitted upside down i'll try taking a look at them later,,
k2m*hanna said: On all fork seals period they are to be installed with the part # or measurement facing up where you can read it if you pop up the dust seal... if the reverse is discovered that is your problem other than that the dust seal are sorta irrelavant to the oil leaking especially since you said it happened the first time the forks where compressed ... :2cents: if that was the case could the fork be opened and just flip the oil seal and close it back with the same seals or are they just useless by now and should be changed P.S. i'm under the impression that those seals are quit sensitive to the sense if they were opened they can't be used again :rolleyes:
TN10R said: I'm guessing you got a bad install. Either put in backwards or maybe damaged during install. I would go with fresh seals just to be sure. Another thing to check is to run a pair of panty hose over the inner tubes. If there is a small nick, it can cut the new seals just like the old ones. Doubtful this would happen to both tubes, but worth the check.
M*toTech10R said: For sure just get a new set of seals cause the lip that the bearings sit on is a lot sharper than most think ... and when you do install them make sure you use some type of "condom" over that bearing surface ... Plastic bag works great for me and grease the hell out of them ... Lastly don't forget to install them right with the part number and or size facing ledgible when installed...
n*cholonious said: Try liquid gasket?
M*toTech10R said: No ... will not work .... Only the correct and correctly installed seals will NOT leak...